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More Gun Crime…

One of the most remarkable things I ever did see on TV News was a vigil for victims of gun-crime held in Manchester. I think it must of been some sort of anniversary of some young lad being shot and deaded in a South Manchester pub. Sounds tragic doesn’t it? I mean he was like 20 tops.

Except it wasn’t quite how the tragedarians portrayed it with the weeping mother and a candle-lit vigil. Because I recall how it had originally been presented in the media. Now you might be thinking he’d gone to the pub with his mates to watch Man City play Chelsea and have a couple of jars. You might be thinking he’d gone to chat-up the local talent. You might be thinking he went to transact a drug-deal or flog a nicked car stereo… He was there strictly on business and none of the above. He was a contract killer on his first (and last job). He was there to pop a cap in the ass of some other miscreant except it didn’t work out and the other miscreant was also carrying and clearly had an itchier finger. So this lad died of sheer incompetence on the first day of the job.

Yet by the appliance of the science of advanced victimology and the passage of time he became a victim of gun crime. Now in a sense he was but in a broader sense if you walk into a gaff with a shooter and murderous intent and get whacked then this is what I shall play your lament upon…

I’m not sure if that actually is the world’s smallest violin but it shall do. The truly bizarre thing is his tearful mum couldn’t see the bigger picture at all and thought him a victim. Now, I honestly don’t know how it works (the contract killing business) but she seemed to think it was better for her son to be doing that than signing on. Presumably if he’d been successful the cash would have paid for a Sunday roast and a new telly or something. Something a mum can be really proud of “Oh, he’s a good lad!” Well the Krays always loved their mum too. Well a mate of mine got a job after leaving school in the Argos warehouse. Not a great job but a start and vastly more something to be proud of than being a contract-killer and a bloody incompetent one at that. Victim – yes. Of guns, no. Of epic incompetence and stupidity – yes.

I mean that was my parish near as damn it and that could have been me sitting quietly in the corner watching the football and killed or maimed in a crossfire.


  1. John Galt says:

    I Still think Michaels point from the earlier thread was closest to the bullseye.

    The problem with the idiotic ‘liberal’ (my arse) bansterbators is that the only people that obey the law on guns are the law abiding, the criminals, who are nominally the targets of such legislation, ignore the law because as Michael says “It’s in the job description”.

    So some criminal arsehole who gets whacked while trying to put a cap in the ass of some other criminal arsehole – tough shit. The only way that situation might have been improved would be if they had both killed each other, then the world would have been short of two criminal toerags rather than just the one.

    As for the mum, sorry, but I’ve no sympathy at all. A life of crime almost exclusively starts with bad or at least neglectful parenting, so she’s probably the cause of the toerag becoming a gun toting hoodlum anyway. Tough shit – them’s the breaks.

    What I find really offensive is that it is the public’s taxes and TV license money that goes towards supporting, propogating and to a certain extent perpetuating this farce of victimology in the first place.

    I blame the social workers, if we stop lending a sympathetic ear to these bastards and start giving them lessons from the school of hard knocks to begin with then there would probably be fewer of the little thugs.

  2. JuliaM says:

    “So this lad died of sheer incompetence on the first day of the job.”

    I blame the decline in proper, accredited apprenticeship schemes… ;)

  3. 6079SmithW says:

    Sounds like Irving, the hundred and forty second fastest gun in the west.

    One forty one could draw faster than he, but Irving was looking for one forty three …

    Didn’t find him, obviously.

    Winston Smith

  4. Kevyn Bodman says:

    Perhaps this should have gone on the earlier thread, but that’s rather long now.

    I don’t know who Jeff Snyder is, but he said this:

    ‘To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct,but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless,and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow… For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behaviour of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behaviour of the law-abiding.’

  5. 6079SmithW says:

    @ Kevyn Bodman

    Not heard of him before, but he says what I think: if you are free you do not need rights. Ignore government, get on with your own life as you choose.

    This is from 2001:

    Winston Smith

  6. MickC says:

    As we of a North-eastern persuasion might say “Laugh? I p*s**d a bucketful!”

    You really couldn’t make it up!

  7. MickC says:

    On reflection, good example of market forces at work. The least efficient truly was taken out of the market. Wonder if prices rose as a consequence.

  8. Tim Newman says:

    I don’t know if it is just a Manchester thing, but the city has form in this area. Every time some little shit of a toe-rag did something which resulted in injury or damage, the mother would be splattered over the inside pages of the MEN calling her runt “a loveable scamp”.

    I remember shortly after I arrived in Manchester, around 1996-97, a six year old was abducted from Ashton-Under-Lyne bus station and murdered (I think by a bus driver). The CCTV caught the kid at something like 8pm wandering around the bus station – on his fucking own! Six years old! The mother was wailing about how her “loveable scamp” had been taken from her, and a whole load of others saying “he was often in trouble but everyone knew and loved him”. Jesus, the mother and the community let a six year old wander about bus stations getting into trouble and are wailing at the awfulness of him being abducted and murdered. The whole lot should have been stuck up against a wall and shot.

  9. NickM says:

    If you think Mancs are bad on that score I assume you have never been to Liverpool.

  10. Single Acts of Tyranny says:

    “The CCTV caught the kid at something like 8pm wandering around the bus station – on his fucking own”

    Just saw two kids on scooters, plainly alone at the local shopping mall, maybe eight years old. Guess why I couldn’t send ‘em home?

  11. Lynne says:

    Saved us the cost of a trial and the deader a six month suspended sentence…

  12. Tim Newman says:

    If you think Mancs are bad on that score I assume you have never been to Liverpool.

    Oh, Liverpool is on a whole other level in this regard. I was restricting my comments to normal cities populated by normal people who generally don’t consider themselves perpetual victims of injustice.

  13. Schrodinger's Dog says:

    I nominate this man for a Darwin Award.

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