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Such a “Demanding” Religion Islam, isn’t it?

Our little Muslim buddies are at it again folks, when are they never you ask? and you would be right.


Now what is the main thrust of an Atheist Society do you think? Reverence and respect for those who believe in the Sky Fairy? Or debunking the whole damn scam? Discuss politely and with no reference whatsoever to the glaring holes and contradictions that exist at the centre of every religion that ever existed on this planet.


I am an Atheist. I’m not the slightest bit militant about it, I just don’t believe in a Supreme Being or Creator. I get up in the morning, look in the mirror and say myself… “ You’re still looking good RAB my old son, but how much longer do you have left to enjoy this wonderful accident of existence? Best make the most of it while you can, cos you’re only going to get one shot at it and you’re a long time dead,  gone and forgotten”. Then I proceed with my day, and get on with it in the most joyful and productive way that I may.

Fisk it yourselves folks, I could do it myself but that would leave less scope for the rest of you commentators. I don’t blame the bloke for running for cover, you need brass balls and police protection to go head to head with the thin skinned practitioners of the “Religion of Peace” these days , but bloody good on the rest of the Society , for refusing to take the cartoons down.

Is drinking Alcohol actually prohibited in the Koran? Well it’s a mute point, I heard that it came first from Big Mo himself, admonishing his followers for not slaughtering the Infidel unbelievers fast enough and conquering their lands, because they stopped to party after every victory.

And if this is blasphemy or in the slightest bit insulting to normal rational human beings, then I am a baboon’s arse.


  1. john in cheshire says:

    I just wonder if it is retards that are muslims or islam makes them into retards.

  2. Thornavis says:

    As has been pointed out elsewhere this is the Ahmadiya sect that is itself on the receiving end of Sunni intolerance, excuse me if in future I fail to register the slightest sympathy for them.

  3. Its a MOOT point – although not in the US where it means something different again!(/pedant)

  4. permanentexpat says:

    At some time we have to stop ‘turning the other cheek’ to Islam in the UK…..before it subjugates us by sheer demographics. It is our enemy but not our greatest. The deadliest are apathy & political correctness.
    …and do I not read today of 370,000 illegals on our stupidly generous Welfare system? Yes, I know, E.Europeans incl. How come we’re still intent on commiting national suicide?
    Oh, I am at heart an atheist but I like to hedge my bets so my current label is Agnostic 8-))

  5. 370,000 ‘illegals’ – no you didn’t – the actual figure was I think 180. The 370,000 referred to immigrants to this country found to be on benefit. It also includes people who later took British citizenship.

  6. RAB says:

    Thank you Ian, my pedant friend, ;-) but twas just a typo as I tend to just rattle these things off at a rate of knots. However having thought about it for a milisecond, I recon Mute is just as good, as the question whether Alcohol is forbidden by the Koran, is never questioned, or spoken about by Muslims and is assumed to be a “Given”. This leads me to a long held believe of mine that most Muslims have never actually read the Koran from cover to cover and get their interpretations of what it actually says from their Imams. They recite it in Arabic (a language the majority of Muslims do not speak) while banging their heads on the carpet, so to speak.

    You are also correct that the figure of 370,000 “illegals” claiming benefit were not illegal at all, but the point was that they used not to be allowed to do so under the old rules, but somehow now, magically are. Like the dear sweet Roma lady who is now able to claim housing benefit on top of all the other benefits she receives, because some twat of a Judge has ruled that selling the Big Issue is a proper job.

    Incidentally she used to be a permenent fixture outside my local Co-op, day in day out, but since the story broke, has mysteriously dissapeared. How very odd, it’s a good pitch.

  7. “Actions may be legal or illegal, but people are not. Call them immigrants, undocumented families, parents without papers, our coworkers and neighbors. But they are not “illegals.” The i-word reduces human beings to their political status, and silences the real issues in the debate – whether existing immigration laws are even remotely fair or just in the first place. The i-word is offensive and divisive, and doesn’t belong in a newspaper headline any more than the n-word or any other ethnic slur. No human being is illegal.”

  8. RAB says:

    Thanks for the lecture Ian, but to whom were you addressing it? Certainly not me I hope, as I clearly stated they were not illegal.

    Lazy journalise is what that is all about. People are not illegal but their status and actions may be.

  9. Anyone who calls people ‘illegals’. It dehumanises them and that is the first step on a very slippery slope.

    How do you suggest we restrict immigration by the way? ‘Immigration’ is surely a consequence of having a state dedicated to restricting the free movement of people.

  10. NickM says:

    What gets me is the broad-brush talk of limiting “nett-migration” as a policy goal. So that’s bearded Jordanian hate preacher Abu Qatada and a cleaning lady and someone who just snagged a professorship in genetics at Cambridge all lumped in one boat. It’s farcical! It’s truly farcical because there should be a free market here. It’s a sort of incredibly crude kissin’ cousin of the fixed wealth fallacy. I mean some bloke comes over here and gets a job (bad – taking jobs from the lokes), some bloke comes over here and signs on (bad – taking taxes from the lokes). But in the first case most of the folks I’ve ever met who are foreign and work here are in positions to create even more jobs. They have homes (plumbers, electricians, builders…) and cars (mechanics) and eat food and go to bars and… And the crowning disaste of this argument is the “strain on the NHS” one. A lot of these people are doctors and nurses!

  11. RAB says:

    ian, by dehumanises them I presume you mean in the eyes of the indiginous population? because I very much doubt that persons that do not have the right entry and residential paperwork give a flying fuck what people call them, as long as they are allowed to stay.

    Like Nick, I have no problem with “Immigration” per se, only the speed and volume of it. New Labour deliberately let it rip for their own nefarious political purposes, two and a half million in the last decade alone. That’s more people in a very short time than since the end of the last Ice Age.

    I would like to think that people want to come to my country for the right reasons… Namely to work and improve their lot, to share in the culture that has been built up over centuries and intergrate with it, but I think that may be a little naive in the main, don’t you?

    So if we want to limit immigration then getting rid of the Welfare State would be the place to start, a good idea all on its own by the way. Then we will see how attractive we still are. Let’s face it, nobody comes for the weather do they?

    It is the dissipation of our Culture, Heritage and History that troubles those of us who were born into a monoculture (with some variations, Welsh (I am Welsh) Scots and Irish). But that is a topic for a whole thread on its own, isn’t it?

  12. spinoza says:

    Alcohol is actually prescribed, not proscribed in one surah in the Qur’an.
    16:67: And of the fruits of the palms and the grapes– you obtain from them intoxication and goodly provision; most surely there is a sign in this for a people who ponder. (Shakir) Yet strangely Yusuf Ali appears to have found a different version of the original Arabic, for any mention of strong liquor is absent: And from the fruit of the date-palm and the vine, ye get out wholesome drink and food: behold, in this also is a sign for those who are wise.
    The whole shebang is so totally confused I never cease to wonder how any sensible, intellectually curious adult can live their life, their precious one life, believing such bollocks.

  13. Immigration to this country is not a function of the Welfare State – just look at the history of the East End of London, Liverpool, Cardiff or South Shields. Nor has Britain ever really been a monoculture – the culture we do have is a mongrel born out of successive waves of immigration over centuries.

    Who decides what are the ‘right reasons’ for coming here? We treat asylum seekers abominably, yet the people coming here to ‘work and improve their lot’ are refused entry as simply ‘economic migrants’.

    I don’t care why people choose to come here. If they have taken the decision to uproot their lives and make incredibly arduous journeys to get here, I’m not going to second guess them and say “sorry mate, wrong reason”!

    We dehumanise people by the language we use to describe them – ‘illegals’ is simply the latest. ‘Ethnics’ was another I heard a particularly stupid local councillor use. As I’ve already said, when we treat people as less than human, as less than ourselves, that is but a short step from a steep and nasty slope.