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Mozzer strikes again…

If you know The Smiths that’s quite witty.

Morrissey has attacked President Obama and the tradition of turkey-eating on Thanksgiving, in a blog post on his website entitled ‘Thankskilling’.

My sides nearly split with mirth.

Morrissey described the annual lighthearted turkey ‘pardon’ ceremony that Obama takes part in, where turkeys are saved from being slaughtered, as “embarrassingly stupid”.

Well. apart from describing Mozzer as an ageing Ted with a chronic masturbater’s complexion. Yup, the greatest export Manchester ever made… But traditions are “stupid” (aren’t they?) and traditions (pretty much by def don’t include the presidency of Barack Obama – a tradition going back to 2008 is not exactly traditional is it?) It is is silly but then so is wearing a paper crown on Christmas Day. Very silly but Mozzer, we is just trying to have fun – which appear to be something Mozzer who once wrote that real upbeat ditty, “Girlfriend in a Coma” fails to get at any level.

Otherwise I would drone endlessly about the wit and wisdom of Chairman Mao over a buggered tannoy whilst some fucker arse-vogeled a 1980s Casio keyboard to accompany. Without Johnnie Marr you are nothing. Just a (poor) voice wandering alone in the wilderness…

“Please ignore the abysmal example set by President Obama who, in the name of Thanksgiving, supports torture as 45 million birds are horrifically abused; dragged through electrified stun baths, and then have their throats slit. And President Obama laughs. Haha, so funny!”

Do I detect the voice of a left-winger betrayed?

Furthermore, “As Ingrid Newkirk from PETA points out, turkey ‘meat’ is one of ‘our nation’s top killers’, causing heart-attacks and strokes in humans due to saturated animal fats and cholesterol. And President Obama laughs.”

A very strange use of quotes around ‘meat’. Either it is or it isn’t meat. The moral discussion about eating it (or not) is not furthered by scare quotes any more than PETA’s dismal attempt to rebrand ‘fish’ as ‘sea-kittens’*. And in any case eating turkey and having a heart attack is one’s own choice. I can’t stick turkey anyway. Dry and insipid, much like chicken and roast pork.

Morrissey has long been a campaigner for animal rights, vociferously promoting a vegetarian diet – and sometimes tipping into controversy. He said that the 2011 Utoya massacre by Anders Breivik was “nothing compared to what happens in McDonald’s and Kentucky Fried shit every day.”

The news that he is now scheduled to play a Nobel Peace Prize concert in Oslo has upset some in Norway, given his earlier comments.

Well, the Nobel Peace Prize is not worth a penny-weight of Arafat’s giblets really but that is offensive. I am now deeply tempted to obtain a moose burger just for the hell of it!

In 2009 he left the stage at the Coachella festival saying: “The smell of burning animals is making me sick. I can smell burning flesh . . . and I hope to God it’s human.”

Would Mozzer have been happier at Auschwitz than in the vicinity of a hot-dog stand? I’ve been to both in my time. I have also been a vegetarian (sort of – I could never make a chilli that really worked) and am married to a vegan but that casual moral equivalence is appalling. Utterly wrong. It is that sort of attempt at making a KFC the same as a NAZI death camp the reason I fear for the future. That it can even be said is very scary. Killing 6 million Jews is not on the same moral map as getting a hot dog. It is indeed chilling rather than chill dog. Animals of course require our care but they are not us. Up to a point they are moral agents (my cat knows he’s done a bad thing when he pukes on the duvet) but they are not the same. Very similar in many ways but not the same. We once lost Timmy. We were moving and he fled the house due to the disruption at something like the speed of heat.**

He came back after a tense while. We spent an extra day sitting on orange boxes (so to speak) with not even the telly waiting for him. My wife was in tears – there were a number of kebab shops in Levenshulme. Then a paw scratched at the door. That night he insisted on sleeping between us in our bed. So, stick that up your arse-trumpet Mozzer. I do care for animals. And Timmy has a lovely big garden to prowl and get into fights with other cats who invade his territory. He also eats meat for a certain value of meat. He only likes the cheapest stuff in terms of pouches. He’ll go insane if I have fish. I once got some smoked mackerel from Aldi (and very good it was too) and had to exfiltrate the kitty from the bin for he’d gone in head first after the skin. I was alerted by a terrible mewling and the sight of a tail. Daft bugger.

“Bring me the head of Elton John… which is one instance in which meat would not be murder, if it were served on a plate.”

Now, I’m no fan of the Rocketman but might it be apposite to say he’s sold more records than Mozzer? That he isn’t a total twat? And perhaps more to the point, whilst I might want to eat a nice sirloin, Mozzer wants, for whatever obscure reasons (mentioned above) to eat Elton John’s head which is a bit too Heston for me? You’d have to get through the rug first apart from anything else. But you do have to wonder if John’s success over decades in the pop business doesn’t irk the Salford One? Or the fact his HIV/AIDS charity has done more good than Mozzer’s sanctimonious posing? I mean I was never a Smiths fan (and the solo stuff is drivel) but to the extent the Smiths were good was down to Johnnie Marr and not the gladioli-wielding bard of Salford.

At a moral point why is it not allowed to eat critters but OK with people you don’t like? All totalitarianism (and Morrissey is a totalitarian – well, a wannabe one anyway) is about this.

Morrissey is a sort of eternal recurrence of DH Lawrence. The sort of quasi-socialist who hates the “little people” who don’t get him. Lawrence once wrote (and this was published, I think) about how he wanted to set-up a circus big-top and have the lumpen proletariat shoved through to be exterminated to the sound of a band playing popular songs. Yes, he did. I lack refs for it but yes, he did. Is this much different from Mozzer? No it isn’t.

They are both utterly overrated. Check!

They both have chips on their shoulder you could sink battleships with. Check!

They both despise the people they allegedly seek to help. Check!

So that’s that. The quotes are from here.

*An odd one as my little cat loves to eat his sea-kittens. More interestingly, if I have a sea-kitten then we have a Rommel v Patton situation. He’ll lurk then strike but then I am smarter being H sapiens sapiens and he’s Felis silvestris catus. He made an elaborate encircling manoeuvre round the back of the sofa last night whilst I was eating pizza.
**USAF fighter-jockey slang for anything between the speed of sound and that of light.

35 Comments

  1. John Galt says:

    Lawrence’s opinion of the masses is detailed by Professor John Carey in The Intellectuals and the Masses (1992). He quotes a 1908 letter from Lawrence to Blanche Jennings:

    “If I had my way, I would build a lethal chamber as big as the Crystal Palace, with a military band playing softly, and a Cinematograph working brightly; then I’d go out in the back streets and main streets and bring them in, all the sick, the halt, and the maimed; I would lead them gently, and they would smile me a weary thanks; and the band would softly bubble out the “Hallelujah Chorus”

    I thought you were joking about the sea-kittens and then I went to PETA’s website – ugh! :-(

    A Sea-kitten in it's natural habitat

  2. XX Furthermore, “As Ingrid Newkirk from PETA points out, turkey ‘meat’ is one of ‘our nation’s top killers’, causing heart-attacks and strokes in humans due to saturated animal fats and cholesterol. XX

    Oh DO fuck off, and go and wash the dishes, or iron your owners, sorry husbands shirt, or whatever dykes get up to when they are not moaning.

    Turkey and chicken is RECCOMENDED for heart and stroke patients (The later I know from personal experience), because it is full protien (Which “destroys” body fat, the “bad” stuff” any way.), and has VERY little saturated fat and cholesterine!

    As ANY one who has had to use their teeth as leather cutters to down their Grannys Sunday dinner will attest.

  3. NickM says:

    Apart from anything else FT what the fuck is “cholesterine”?

  4. John Galt says:

    “Cholesterine” is the original name for what we now call “Cholesterol” and is still used in some countries.

  5. Ahh. Probably I should ither write in German OR English, and not both….. :-) Sorry.

    J.G is correct.

  6. John Galt says:

    Die Sprache ist nicht das problem, Wir haben weder eine gemeinsame Sprache noch eine gemeinsame Kultur. Wir sind international Freiheitskämpfern.

    :-)

  7. penseiveat says:

    “Please ignore the abysmal example set by President Obama who, in the name of Thanksgiving, supports torture as 45 million birds are horrifically abused; dragged through electrified stun baths, and then have their throats slit. And President Obama laughs. Haha, so funny!” says our Mo.
    I now look forward to this idiot standing outside the Central Mosque (20 Park Road MR14 5RU) shouting “Please ignore the abysmal example set by hundreds of Islamic Imams who, in the name of their prophet and god, support torture as millions of animals are horifically abused, dragged, struggling and terrified, to a drain, where they have their throats slit while some bloke mutters the name of said god. And they all think this is civilised.”
    In fact, if he tells me when, I’ll even buy a ticket, which is something I wouldn’t dream of doing on the times he’s threatened to sing!

  8. penseiveat says:

    Sorry, forgot to add that I always thought PETA stood for “People Eating Tasty Animals”!

  9. Please ignore the abysmal example set by President Obama who, in the name of Thanksgiving, supports torture as 45 million birds are horrifically abused; dragged through electrified stun baths, and then have their throats slit. And President Obama laughs. Haha, so funny!As Ingrid Newkirk from PETA points out, turkey ‘meat’ is one of “our nation’s top killers”, causing heart-attacks and strokes in humans due to saturated animal fats and cholesterol. And President Obama laughs.Further, the meat industry is responsible for 51% of human-caused greenhouse-gas emission, therefore the embarrassingly stupid White House ‘turkey pardon’ is open support for a viciously cruel and environmentally irresponsible industry.And President Obama laughs.

  10. john in cheshire says:

    Cholesterine. Isn’t it the same as Soylent Green. In any event, the green and marxist parties would no doubt love to partake of white, English, Christian, male meat. Oh, dear that sounds even more suggestive than I intended.

    As for Mr Morrissey. I will give him the benefit of the doubt regarding his intentions. But people of average intelligence should never attempt to project themselves onto the world stage. Conversely, people of supposedly higher intelligence, should know better than to presume they are wiser than the rest of us.

  11. john in cheshire says:

    Just as a matter of interest – do you or any of your readers follow biasedbbc or guidofawkes? Because I have a problem with both of them. I know that I have quite firm views about a lot of things but I thought the blog environment was a place where views were exchanged perhaps to change people’s minds. However, biasedbbc has in effect censored me and I am unable to contact them to determine what I have done to justify such a punishment. And guidofawkes seems to have some filter on words that prevent all comments being posted; but I can’t understand which are the unacceptable words.

    Has anyone else had the same experience?

  12. Julie near Chicago says:

    Well personally, I think Nick hits the most important point, about having to nosh your way through Elton J.’s rug if you have gustatory designs on his head.

    Or if not the most important, at least the funniest. :>))!!

  13. NickM says:

    JiC,
    “…love to partake of white, English, Christian, male meat”. Yes, that could be taken as suggestive – ask Rick or Jamie. Up the nook or even the cranny… As to censorship. Well, it ain’t if it is by individuals on their own gaff (and trust me you have steered very close to the wind on occasion), For example if I set-up a blog about aerospace (the sort of thing I might do) and someone made even very sensible comments on ballet repeatedly I’d deep six ‘em. Nobody gives out their “unacceptable word list” for obvious reasons. We don’t have one and I’ve only IP banned one person and that was for threatening to kill me. So you gotta go a long way – not an invitation to try by the way! That was for saying something contra a certain prophet. Having said that when I took part in the “Draw Muhammed” competition I was threatened with the buggery and brutal murder of my sister which vaguely amused me seeing as I don’t have one. Oh, and of course, I was using a disposable a/c.

  14. CountingCats says:

    I can’t stick turkey anyway. Dry and insipid, much like chicken and roast pork.

    Then you have never eaten it properly cooked.

    Moist, tender, and delicately flavoured.

    Yum.

  15. john in cheshire says:

    NickM, thanks. And if you ever need help in defending yourself against the muslim cartoon haters, let me know. I might know someone who can provide the kind of support you might need.

  16. CountingCats says:

    FT,

    Oh DO fuck off, and go and wash the dishes, or iron your owners, sorry husbands shirt, or whatever dykes get up to when they are not moaning.

    So, any woman you disagree with is automatically a ‘dyke’? Or do you have some deep knowledge of this woman that the rest of us are not privy to?

    Your choice: is it that I am PC, or is it that I am not wild about abusive stereotypes when we are meant to be people who celebrate (sorry for the PC term) individuality?

  17. ALL “green” women are dykes, and all the “men” are bloody queer.

  18. NickM says:

    “Bloody queer”. You mean they have a highly unusual blood type? As to “All green women” or indeed “all dykes” I despair. No Furor, they are probably just women who (and I can understand why given that outburst) just don’t want to have sex with you. Shocking and totally un-PC for them to mock the afflicted and all but there you have it. FT, you really need to get out more. Really. Seriously.

  19. CountingCats says:

    FT,

    I suspect that you have a snowflakes chance of being allowed to win that argument. Smearing someone over their sexuality, or imputing a particular sexuality in an attempt to smear them, ain’t gunna win you any brownie points here.

    I disagree with John Grimes a whole lot, at this Liberty Hall you are not free to spit on the mat – unless it is your mat, and in private, and you clean up after yourself, you are not free to call the cat a bastard, and you are not free to put my sister in the family way – unless she wholeheartedly agrees first.

    Opinions are welcome, baseless smears aren’t.

  20. CountingCats says:

    FT, I suspect JG might have an opinion on this matter as well.

  21. JG may have, and I am 100% sure he does.

    But he is true to himself, and the outside world. Which I respect.

    Others are not.

  22. Henry Crun says:

    Graham Nash was interviewed on Danny Baker’s show a few weeks ago.at the conclusion Baker commented about a Salford lad who showed us how music should be done unlike (and I’m paraphrasing here) that miserable twat Morrisey.

  23. NickM says:

    Furor,
    For the love of all pity! Are you Jeremy Clarkson in disguise?

  24. NickM says:

    … and are these just women who didn’t want to have sex with you?

  25. “Frankly my dear, I could not GIVE a shit”, to quote some arse from an outdated book/film.

    They want shagin’, then go along the Reeperbahn, I am sure they will find what they are after, and make a couple of bob into the bargain.

  26. NickM says:

    Furor,
    Is feminism just something that happened to other people then?

  27. CountingCats says:

    Nick, FT,

    I am a tad concerned this may escalate into a slanging match.

    FT, you are wrong, we are right. Opinions are welcome, baseless smears are not. You want to write stuff like this, go find a dunny door somewhere, just not here.

    Our property, our rules.

    I declare this off topic thread terminated before it escalates further.

  28. XX you are wrong, we are right. XX

    Sorry, did not realise you were a commy bastard.

    You will be voting for Commyron and his cohorts next.

  29. CountingCats says:

    So you wish to tell me what rules I may impose on my own property? If I disagree I am the commie?

    Really?

    I am unable to understand why it is necessary to repeat this, but I will try again. See if you can understand.

    On my property you are welcome to present any opinion you wish, backed up by any reasoned argument you may care to make. You are not welcome to smear with baseless allegations, especially with regards to sex, gender, gender preferences, bodily parts or bodily functions.

    You are, and remain free to make such comments along those lines as you feel fit, somewhere else, anywhere else, just not here.

    Try as I might, I am at a loss to understand how that makes me a commie. A prude maybe, or even someone with a bit of taste who expects something approaching style from the commenters, but a commie?

    Who is Commyron?

  30. John Galt says:

    @FT, we don’t do censorship here, but it’s Cats place, he coughs up for the gear, internet connection, hardware and software. To my minarchist viewpoint that makes this blog his gaff (colloquial English: = “property”).

    As he says “at this Liberty Hall you are not free to spit on the mat – unless it is your mat, and in private, and you clean up after yourself, you are not free to call the cat a bastard*, and you are not free to put my sister in the family way – unless she wholeheartedly agrees first.”

    If you’re just coming here to troll us or wind us up with gratuitous, irrelevant nonsense then bugger off somewhere else.

    * = The cats name is Dennis by the way.
    The name is Dennis

  31. XX FT, you are wrong, we are right.XX

    Is what I was refering to, NOT your “Hausrecht”…..

    What that is in English, I can not recall…… But “House rights”.

  32. NickM says:

    FT,
    Basically it’s “Play nice or get the fuck out”. And that is in Geordie.

    JG,
    It’s counting Cats and we have another (RAB has a dog but nobody is perfect) and my cat is Timmy. Not my choice of name but he is a fine tuxedo cat and a fighter and a puker. He is also a tactician to put Guderian to shame – especially when I have a pizza or when I’ve chased a cat attacking him. As the foe was departing tail-down Timmy went aerial, fully splayed and all claws and fangs and bit back – quite literally. Most of the time he is a sweetie but you enter his garden without his express consent he will chin you. One way or another. And if that includes calling down an airstrike (i.e. me or my wife armed with the Mk1 yard brush) he will do it. And he likes his Dreamies and sleeps in the greenhouse.

  33. XX you are not free to put my sister in the family way – unless she wholeheartedly agrees first.XX

    Like it! :-D

    As far as I am concerned, I was/am not “insulting” any one HERE. And that was never my intention.

  34. NickM says:

    It may not have been your intention…

  35. CountingCats says:

    FT,

    Thing is, which you missed in my comments, I don’t enjoy baseless sexualised abuse. I don’t see any point in it, I don’t see any intellectual value in it, and it drives away those who, like me, are not obsessed by sexuality and bodily functions.

    As I said, call me a prude if you wish, but I will say right out, it contributes nothing to a discussion bar to lower the value of whatever point the speaker is trying to make.

    Would you walk into someones house, start discussing someone, somewhere, in sexually abusive terms, and then abuse the owner as a ‘commy’ when they asked you to raise the tone of your conversation?

    Sorry, but methinks you did seek to insult – otherwise, what was with the ‘commy’ comment?

    I am happy to accept an apology, but not one where you pretend to not having the intention you very clearly did have.

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