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Morons, Liars And Sheeple

I don’t have much patience for opinions based on ignorance, there’s no excuse to remain unknowledgeable about whatever subject you decide to spout off about, there is a plethora of information readily available at the click of a mouse. Just because you choose to limit your pool of resources to others holding a similar mindset, doesn’t make your opinion even remotely true, much less right.

Let’s take this beast of a health care bill, people are particularly worked up about death panels along with a half dozen other items that actually don’t exist in the bill. Opinion writers and politicians have chosen to interpret, and lie about, certain provisions to gain a political reaction from the sheeple, and, to be honest, I’m not at all dismayed that my fellow citizens have finally gotten off their fat asses to yell at Congress. If it takes a few well skewed sound bites to rouse their fury, so be it.

I just wish their anger was more intelligently directed. They’re busy screaming about non-issues, jabbing at strawmen and generally missing the whole fucking point. We are already a highly socialized, intensely regulated nation, and they can’t seem to grasp this fundamental fact. Screaming about death panels and euthanasia seems to get them juiced up, though.

I happen to think this entire bill is unnecessary. We have around 9 million people (citizens) who cannot afford to purchase private or participate in their companies insurance programs because they need every dollar they earn to buy the basic necessities of life; shelter and food come before an HMO plan on their tight budgets. These working poor also earn just a tad too much to qualify for our socialized medical programs.

Here’s an idea: Let’s just expand our already existing programs to include these needy people and call it a day. Most Americans have fully bought into the idea that the unemployed, low earners, their offspring and the elderly should be subsidized by functional adults who manage to earn a decent living. We think it’s right and just to redistribute one person’s income to house, feed, clothe, educate and doctor another who doesn’t earn enough, or any, income, for whatever reason. Providing medical coverage for 9 million more souls under a program that is expected to be fully bankrupt in a few years is a hell of a lot cheaper and less disruptive than this bureaucratic quagmire of a bill currently on the table.

Here’s another idea to consider: Why don’t we demand that Congress fix our current systems of socialized healthcare before allowing them to embark on another train wreck of well intended, Utopian policy making? They seem to have plenty of mismanagement, fraud, red tape and funding issues on their overloaded plates of Medicare, Medicaid and S-Chip they might remedy. The VA could use some attention, too. How about we ask them to start cleaning house at the bottom of the mess they already control? Their management has been less than impressive up to this point, so why would any rational adult trust them with an expanded realm of operation in this arena?

Here’s the best idea of all: Let’s grandfather all of our socialized medical programs (shoot, just for fun, let’s kick in Social Security and the vast medley of welfare programs, too) and let them slowly die out of existence. Anyone born from 2010 onward would be entirely dependent on relatives, their own abilities or private charity to provide for themselves for all of their natural lives.

They wouldn’t be required to pay taxes into the current systems that support others. They would not be forced by the government to provide the basics of life to another living soul and they would not be allowed to participate in any of these government programs. Of course, some would starve to death or die from lack of medical treatment. Many might suffer from a lack of decent shelter or end up looking to charity because they made irresponsible choices in life, like remaining uneducated and skill-less, having children they couldn’t afford, drugging themselves senseless or dropping their life savings at a crap table in Vegas. So be it, let Darwinism reign.

Who knows, a few generations that have been raised in a country that respects their autonomy to fail or succeed might actually insist that the federal government be held to account. A task we’ve surely failed to accomplish.

On those evil death panels? Those mandatory visits that will now be paid for by medicaid/medicare, if you are enrolled in one of those programs, to see a counselor every five years to update your end of life choices while you are still mentally and physically able to make decisions? I don’t have a problem with that provision. People should know what their end of life medical choices are, decide what they want and ensure that those wishes are codified. They should plan for their death, not leave it at the discretion of family, doctors or the courts.

I really don’t know what the uproar is all about, if you buy into the basic premise that wide swaths of the population are unable, unwilling or too irresponsible to provide for their own medical care (and most Americans do buy that premise), why would you be appalled that the government is going to require this same group of irresponsible people to act responsibly about this one detail?  

In for a penny, in for a pound, folks.


  1. IanB says:

    We are already a highly socialized, intensely regulated nation, and they can’t seem to grasp this fundamental fact.

    This seems to me to be a particular problem Americans (particulary conservative ones) suffer from. They can’t seem to grasp that they are already living in a social democracy and have been for decades. They seem to cling to this utterly unsupportable by the evidence belief that “if things carry on like this, we’ll end up like socialist Europe”. I’ve often encountered this genuine heartfelt conviction that America is the last free nation standing up against socialism. It’s been a social democracy, like Europe, since the 1930s. The whole western world has headed down the same railroad in the same direction, even if on slightly different lines.

    Until USAians grasp the situation they’re in, they’re never going to see reality. They seem to have this idea that so long as you don’t have an NHS, you’re not socialist. It’s looking for the one thing that is a bit different, to hold up as proof that a general qualitative difference exists.

  2. JuliaM says:

    “I just wish their anger was more intelligently directed. They’re busy screaming about non-issues, jabbing at strawmen…”

    Not all of them. Some have been polite and respectful in their questions (and more to the point, entitled to ask them)), yet they have been treated exactly the same as if they had screamed and shouted.

    “They seem to cling to this utterly unsupportable by the evidence belief that “if things carry on like this, we’ll end up like socialist Europe”. “

    But with the Healthcare Bill, don’t they have a point?

    I’ve seen the pundits remarking on how some of the pensioners with banners protesting outside Town Halls are on Medicare or Medicade (which is taken as a reason for them not to oppose this bill), yet they miss the point that that too is a huge wasteful government programme in bad need of reform, just like our NHS.

    A lot of the heat generated by this bill has been a response to the realisation that bama may have fatally overreached himself with it.

  3. Franz says:

    Well, DUH indeed!

    The people “unable” to were downsized and then got ill. Sorry for them. Lazy oafs.

    BUT while they worked, the Import-Export bank ALLOWED them to bankroll their competitors, sending entire industries offshore (fer inst: Nippon, which Dick Nixon as Prez had a Special Committee formed in 1972-73 to “find markets for their products because the banks are afraid they won’t payback the loans!)

    Whilst not subsidizing OUR extinction (sorry, retired steelman here, might as well be upfront) we ALSO got to pay whole ride and half-dinner for: Israel, “The Pentagon” which since its groundbreaking in 1941 has not protected even ONE American, the UN, NATO, Egypt, whorehouse watching in Bangkok (check major university anthropological studies, YUP!) and by now probably penguin-watching in Patagonia.

    No? That’s where America went, the numbers do not lie.

    Plus: Americans who worked for a living got to foot the damn bill for Americans who played for a living and, like or no, it’s high time for the night of the living dead. The downsized have to avenge the dead they worked with. Selling the US was fun and profitable for the few, the statistics are available.

    The “health care” nonsense is as false a flag as 911. The real story is the globalist traitors versus the working American because it is neither politics or medicine it is war. The Democrats clearly want a war. The Republicans clearly want a war. The taxpayers have a duty to kill them all and let the rats sort them out.

  4. IanB says:

    But with the Healthcare Bill, don’t they have a point?

    Well my point was that they have this idea that socialism is something in the future they are trying to avoid, rather than something that happened long ago in which they already live.

    As Garet Garrett said in 1953-

    “There are those who still think they are holding the pass against a revolution that may be coming up the road. But they are gazing in the wrong direction. The revolution is behind them. It went by in the Night of Depression, singing songs to freedom.

    There are those who have never ceased to say very earnestly, “Something is going to happen to the American form of government if we don’t watch out.” These were the innocent disarmers. Their trust was in words. They had forgotten their Aristotle. More than 2,000 years ago he wrote of what can happen within the form, when “one thing takes the place of another, so that the ancient laws will remain, while the power will be in the hands of those who have brought about revolution in the state.”

  5. NickM says:

    I’m gonna stick my neck out here. The last I heard (about ten years ago) was that US healthcare was about 13% of GDP and about half of that was Medicare/Medicaid. In the UK we were at the time looking at about 8% on the NHS and a very small private sector. So basically US Healthcare has been to a large extent nationalised already. I mean if ours is then theirs is to a very great extent too.

    Oh, and Obamacare will be a disaster. When we nationalized healthcare in ’48 there was bugger all to it. That is not the case in the USA in the C21st. And you have an incredible structure of insurance companies (and you can bet your bottom dollar thay are all looking into how to maximize profits from any change). Every reform in the last few years of the NHS starting with Johnnie Major has added enormously to the admin. The USA already has a staggeringly beaurocratic “system” and it will only get worse. Expect doctors/nurses/radiographers/physiotherapists etc to become a much smaller part of the total spend and a staggering amount getting spent on shuffling paper.

    Oh and get used to “computer says no”. My brother had a skin complaint. Not especially important but very annoying. So he paid to see a dermatologist (the NHS would have sent him to see one about the turn of the millenium – the next millenium) and this guy writes him a script. But the NHS types had a policy to only use generic drugs so they say, “nyet!” and argue that that is the same as the generic. Which it sort of is but not entirely because it’s half (exactly half) the strength of the thing the specialist prescribed. The time and effort involved in resolving that cluster-fuck (a GP over-ruling a consultant’s clinical opinion???) and we could have all made a vat of the stuff.

    And get used to use space doctors. I once saw one who in the general chat asked what I did. I said “physics”. He said, “I could have done that, I wish I had – I only did medicine to please my mum”. That was the start of the appointment. Would you return to the garage if the mechanic said something like that? Or if the pilot on your 737 says, “I’m only flying this bloody crate because me and my mates’ grunge band didn’t get signed and the bass player became an accountant”. That never happens. It does with UK GPs.

    And it will under Obamacare. You would have been better off with Hillarycare because she had at least thought it through over many years.

  6. Daphne says:

    Exactly Ian. Many of these well meaning and understandably indignant citizens don’t seem to understand that they are living in a socialized country and that their healthcare, even the private policies, are largely managed and heavily legislated by the government. That horse got out of the barn a long time ago.

    Of course the democrats are going to use the few screaming town hall constituents to paint the whole , and mostly reasonable, spectrum as “not representative” – they’re trying to push a program that will engorge the government to even more monumental heights of bureaucracy. Something they love with all their statist hearts.

    As I said, I’m fairly supportive of the screamers because I hope they’ll limit the amount of push our lopsided congress currently takes for granted. I do wish they had started screaming 70 to 80 years ago, though.

  7. Paul Marks says:

    Most of the things that “do not exist in the Bill” DO exist in either the House or Senate Bills.

    For example, one of the “myths” is that the Bill will lead to government funded abortions – “the Bill does not even mention abortion”. Exactly, and the courts have ruled that anything that does not specifically exclude abortion includes it.

    “People screaming about death panels that are not even in the Bill”.

    Odd that various member of Congress are now saying they are going to take the death panels (sorry the “end of life counciling”) out of the Bill.

    “Screaming” – if 99 people ask civil questions and one person screams, guess what is going to get on television.

    Anyway shouting has a point – if someone is lying or is being patronising what else can people in the crowd do but shout? After all the collectivists are up there (with the mike) – if the croud want the Congress critter to know how much they despise them, they are going to have to shout.

    However, you have a point:

    About half of American health care spendling is already government (the county hospitals, pluse Medicare, Medicaid and SCHIP – and……) and these government subsidies push up costs (just as higher education subsdies have led to the explosion in tutition costs) and the rest is tied up in cost increasing regualtions.

    Many of the people who go to the Townhall meetings know all that as well as you do. If they were allowed up next to the Congressman or Senator (and given equal time) they could explain all that.

    But they are not – so chanting “read the Bill” or “you work for us, we do not work for you” is really the only option.

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