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Did those feet…

Jesus Christ could have come to Britain to further his education, according to a Scottish academic.

Church of Scotland minister Dr Gordon Strachan makes the claim in a new film entitled “And Did Those Feet”.

The film examines the story of Jesus’ supposed visit, which survives in the popular hymn Jerusalem.

That’s not Gordon Strachan the former footballer is it? Talk about a career change. And that’s the popular hymn the lyrics of which were penned by noted mentalist William Blake of course. And further His education in what precisely? Woad Studies?

Dr Strachan believes it is “plausible” Jesus came to England for his studies, as it was the forefront of learning 2,000 years ago.

“Coming this far wasn’t in fact that far in the olden days,” Dr Strachan told BBC Radio 4′s The World At One. “The Romans came here at the same time and they found it quite easy.”

Dr Strachan added that Jesus had “plenty of time” to do the journey, as little was known about his life before the age of 30.

Dr Strachan clearly was not a student of the epistemological sciences. It’s plausible that I could have been to the Near East. I haven’t but it’s plausible.

Now the first words of the hymn – “And did those feet” – are the title of a new film based on a book researched by Dr Strachan, who lectures on the history of architecture at Edinburgh University.

“It is generally suggested that he came to the west of England with his uncle, Joseph of Arimathea, who was here for tin,” said the academic.

It is generally suggested? I am sold. What the hell is a fine and noble institution like Edinburgh University doing employing such people?

Dr Strachan claimed Jesus Christ could have come to England to further his education.

“He needed to go around to learn bits and pieces about ancient wisdom, and the druids in Britain went back hundreds if not thousands of years. He probably came here to meet the druids, to share his wisdom and gain theirs.”

Now this is getting very silly. Cue Graham Chapman to come on in an army uniform and stop the whole thing. He probably came here to meet druids. Oh for fuck’s sake! That’s a rapid shift from the coulds to the probables ain’t it?

Among the places Jesus is said to have visited are Penzance, Falmouth, St-Just-in-Roseland and Looe, which are all in Cornwall, as well as Glastonbury in Somerset – which has particular legends about Jesus.

Lots of places have legends. Here’s one from where I grew-up. I have the bones in the attic and charge people a quid a throw to see ‘em.

“St Augustine wrote to the Pope to say he’d discovered a church in Glastonbury built by followers of Jesus. But St Gildas (a 6th-Century British cleric) said it was built by Jesus himself. It’s a very very ancient church which went back perhaps to AD37.”

Well, most churches are built by followers of Jesus. Hindus tend to build temples. All part of life’s rich tapestry and all that jazz. Jazz of course was invented by the swing-combo Moses and the Israelites who toured Sinai for forty years. The details will be revealed in my blockbusting historical work, “What isn’t in Exodus”. Due out next year.

And – my knowledge of early Christian history is a little shaky – but how does Christ building a church Himself fit with it being built in (perhaps) AD37?. Especially when according to the good doctor (and damn fine striker in his day) Christ travelled to talk with druids (did they know Aramaic, did he know ancient Celtic?) and trade tin before he was thirty? I mean He was born around 4BC and crucified in his early thirties right?

What the bloody hell is this farrago of wild and self-contradictory nonsense for? Has Strachan gone doolally with a case of the Dan Browns? Or is there some bizarre ulterior motive? God knows but even He doesn’t move in such mysterious ways.

I’m currently down with a vile lurgy but I’m not making this up am I?

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15 Comments

  1. RAB says:

    Glastonbury has been known as the Isle of Bullshit, rather than the Isle of Avalon, oh throughout it’s 3 thousand year history.

    I’m suprised this guy missed out the graves of King Arthur and Guinovere that the medieval monks “Found” in the Abbey grounds, oh so conveniently when they noticed the Pilgrimage trade dropping off.

    And of course the smoking gun! How could he have missed it? (Von Dankien this boy aint!)
    Why the sacred Thorn of Joseph of Aromathea!!!

    I have seen said thornbush, indeed there is a sprig of it on my mantlepiece, and it has been examined by experts (ah those guys again!) who say that it is a species indiginous to the Middle East, not Summerzet. Wow!

    The legend is that Joseph planted his Stave in the ground for some reason (probably getting angry with the greedy Brit Tin Merchants, cue idea for stunt by God junior at the temple a few years later).

    Well if Jesus existed, it is possible that he could have travelled here. Plenty of other people did, all the way back to the Phoenicians trading for tin and gold.Ancient trade was much more extensive than we have previously believed.

    But hey dont knock it. Two of my friends Live there. They are new age therapists and are coining it in from the “Seeker born every minute” brigade.
    I like going there for dinner. They have a brilliant view of the Tor from their living room window, so you can watch all the hot bothered and out of breathe gullibles climbing the Tor on a hot day in August, no doubt looking for the sacred zodiacs that are built into it too!

    Learn maths from the Druids?
    The Druids were extremely savage people of whom even the Romans were shit scared, hence the Anglesey massacre around 100AD

    They told nobody nuffink!

    What do you think a weedy bookish Jewish carpenter kiddie could have wheedled out of them aged 11?

  2. El Draque says:

    One: the legend about Jesus in Cornwall/Somerset was invented only for reason of advancing the rank of the British church in the Dark Ages. The earlier you were reached by the gospel, the higher your rank and the closer you sat to the pope at church councils.
    Two: final line of comment – carpenter? Says who? The gospels don’t report Jesus’ job. He is described as the son of a carpenter who “probably” learned the trade. Except that in Aramaic, “son of a carpenter” means “uneducated person”.
    So maybe Jospeh wasn’t a carpenter either.
    (Joseph was a rich man, by the way. He registered for Roman taxes; only the top 2% did so.)
    No chance of overruling a trillion sermons though. Those legends will persist just like Glastonbury.

  3. Infidel753 says:

    Jesus obviously stopped off in Britain on his way to America. Haven’t you read the Book of Mormom?

  4. John B says:

    There are all sorts of supernatural speculation going around at the moment. 2012, is one.
    It is quite amazing the amount of effort that goes into playing with the story of Jesus. It is interesting to note that all the manipulations of the story will always cut out one of the following: He was God become man; He died on the cross; He rose from the dead.
    It absolutely fascinates me the amount of ingenuity that goes into these manipulations by various cults and religions.
    Why do they do it? It’s almost supernaturally coherent in pattern.
    Those three factors mentioned above are, of course, the core of the gospel and are essential to God’s plan of salvation for anyone who wants to avail themselves of it.

  5. RAB says:

    (Joseph was a rich man, by the way. He registered for Roman taxes; only the top 2% did so.)

    Yes of course he was! Look at the wedding in Cannan where the Nazz turned water to wine, when somebody noticed that the Liverpool contingent had drunk all the first batch…
    Whine into water, into wine, sorta thing!

    Jesus would never have had attended such a “Bit of a Do” had he, and his family not been wealthy.

    Just look at his Disciples, fishermen (self employed entreprenneurs with capital goods… boats and nets) Others born again Tax collectors, no trade unionists or prole riff raff at all.

    You know, the more I look at it, the more the 13 look like the Shadow Cabinet?

    Oh Holy Fuckin God!

  6. NickM says:

    My understanding… Well the story I quote is dated to St Augustine. You’re trying to convert a tough crowd then what better than claiming Jesus himself walked the lands and built a church. Furthermore this came back up in Victorian times and seems to have been a product of Victorian “World’s Largest Ever Empire” bumptiousness.

    How could a mere native have founded the church that Victoria herself headed.

    But my major point was epistemological. The BBC article might be inaccurate (it has been known ;-) ) but to call the evidence Dr Strachan seems to cite flimsy is to besmirch flimsy. It contains almost a full set of argumental fallacies.

    That’s why I posted it.

    Is this half-assed evangelical scholarship? I ask because it seems to me that pretty much every Christian group since at least St Paul have agreed that Christ’s message is universal and so what does it matter where he lived? I mean unless you want to claim your nation as God’s own country or something and we all know where that sort of thinking can lead…

    A further point. Is this an example of the well known adage that even the most learned of folks can make a right fool of themselves outside of their own field?

  7. El Draque says:

    On top of the almost harmless Glastonbury fantasy, there was also the British Israelite nonsense. That the British are descended from the Ten Lost Tribes.
    The word “Brit-Ish” is Hebrew for Man of the Covenant, you see.
    Chosen People etc. (The evidence ends there, BTW.)
    And the believers in British Israelite-ism were borderline white supremacist.
    Nick, of course the message is universal. But it did happen at a particular time and place. It’s not legend – it was a living parable.
    Some people find it impossible to accept that their own nation, the best of all, wasn’t the one chosen to be the place.
    That holiness can be encountered in any nation – or faith, come to that – isn’t enough; they want it limited to their own kind.

  8. Sam Duncan says:

    “That’s not Gordon Strachan the former footballer is it? Talk about a career change.”

    That was my first thought, but last I heard, he was managing Celtic. I’m not sure the Kirk would take him after that. (I can just see him facing his first Vacancy Committee… “YOU. DID. WHIT?” “Calm doon, Mrs. Wilson, calm doon. I’m sure he meant the Rangers, didn’t ye, Mr. Strachan?”)

  9. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jesus did come to the UK to study. Let’s be fair, who could resist three years of getting pissed and only having a few lectures a week?

  10. NickM says:

    Yeah LFAT – and then he pulls the ultimate student loans deferral!

  11. John B says:

    The great thing I have found with libertarianism is that everyone is free to choose. Which is the basic reality.

  12. Von Spreuth says:

    So what?

    A mythological figure, invented over a camp fire one night by a gang of stoned desert hippies, appears in Britain.

    Yippee.

  13. Infidel 753,
    Not only did Jesus stop off in Britain on his way to America, he eventually made his way from Boston to Yazoo City, Mississippi, where he completed all the work for his doctorate except the dissertation.
    J.C.’s final degree was finally rewarded after his dissertation was published with the guidance of Dr. Jerry Falwell) under the auspices of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia.
    A small group of theologians have read this document, and declared it to be authentic. They often describe it as “settled theology” since it has undergone a thorough peer review. All research relating to The Doctorate Of Christ has been published in The Virginia Journal of Unrelieved Theological Tedium, long thought to be the definite journal of issues relating to Jesus’ credentials.

    Doubting the truth of this narrative is like doubting the truth of the Holocaust.

    No one contributing to this blog, to the best of my knowledge, has a degree in theology. Please leave theology to the theologians, but continue to involunatarily contribute a staggering amount of your taxes to the C of E.

  14. David says:

    Hello
    With greatest of respect to all who post here: Don’t dismiss Dr Strachan.
    Read his thoroughly scholarly book “Jesus the Master Builder” (plus the 6 pages of bibliography). He spent 10 years in the writing of it and it was published in 1998.
    You will come to realise that whether Jesus came to Britain or not isn’t really the point. However it is a subject that sells and the publisher likes it.
    The main point is that there is more in the Bible than meets the eye; Is Jesus too facilely cast in the role of the humble son of a carpenter? The Christian Religeons may well have made a ‘Walt Disney Production’ version of the real events.
    Where is the evidence? Mathematics. All through the Bible there are numbers and sacred geometry.
    There is metadata archeologically embedded in standing stones (See Thom ‘Megalithic Sites in Britain) that shows civilization nor germinating in Greece, but dating to an earlier time in the North West of Britain.
    The great cathedrals are all designed with sacred geometry.
    Dr Strachan has spent a lifetime in study, writing, travelling. He “ventures to suggest”, and all who argue should have done their homework first!
    It’s a wonderful quest.
    DC

  15. Really interesting read! Honest.

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