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Killing of a slave girl

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (peace be upon him) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace be upon him) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace be upon him) was informed about it. He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up. He sat before the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

- Sunan Abu-Dawud book 38, 4348

So having sex-slaves and stabbing and killing one pregnant with your own child is OK but bad-mouthing the Messenger of Allah (one wonders what she had against him) is punishable by death.

And they fucking wonder why I’m an Islamophobe.

That’s a highly-rated hadith by the way.

Words fail. I would have had the bastard shot but then I’m just Nick and not the Messenger of the Religion of Peace. What do I know beyond rudimentary morality?


  1. CountingCats says:

    How delightfully modern. We all know that hate speech is the worst crime of all, not even deserving of even a hint of due process.

  2. NickM says:

    OK, Muhammed is already set-up and a mere slave (and a woman at that) is slagging him off in private. That’s not hate-speech. It’s scarcely more than thought-crime. It’s Mo being vindictive and, I guess, making quite clear that because he’s the Messenger he can do what the fuck he likes and any criticism of him will get the harshest punishment. How unsecure must the fucker have been. Did he know he was just making the whole fucking thing up? The Qu’ran is packed to the rafters with examples of Muhammed refusing to perform miracles and claiming the only miracle needed was the Qu’ran itself which is perfect because it JUST IS, RIGHT!

    OK, I have a point here. This bizarrely passive phraseology is used twice-

    “put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her”

    Is that an artefact of translation or what? It contrasts rather sharply with-

    “A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there”

    I’m no Quincy ME, but I’d guess that to cause a spontaneous abortion the blind fella must have carried out what the press terms “a frenzied knife attack”.

    When Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, was stuck in Broadmoor he said to his brother, “I was just cleaning up the streets”. He thought that God had told him to wax toms or some such. Well, I used to take a short-cut to the School of Maths via an alleyway where Sutcliffe butchered a Leeds University student. Maybe her skirt was too short or something. When I was at Nottingham the East Midlands news was full of tales of “Asian” vigilante gangs beating the hell out of fermale Derby Uni students because they thought they were on the game. Same thing. Cleaning-up the streets.

    If any of that gives the impression that I think killing prozzies is OK then think again. It’s a more honest profession than most.

    “Asian” is of course BBC code for “Muslim”. If I was a law-abiding UK Hindu, Buddhist or Sikh I’d be mighty pissed already.

  3. Paul Marks says:


    I am sure that at least four of the Supreme Court would go along with an anti hate speech thing already – although not the death penality (reducation would be more their line).

    So it only takes a new “Justice” to be appointed or some pressure on weather vane Justice Kennedy.

    The dream of the left, only “progressive speech” allowed, is something they share with Islam – for it to regards its ideas as progressive and counter ideas to be a reactionary return to pre Islamic ignorance.

    Nor are the ideas of the left new – there is nothing in them that Plato would have been astonished by. And, no doubt, there were collectivist thinkers before him.

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